HOWEDY pat you freakin lyin dog and child abusing mental case,
Oh? Your dog does the same same so you think it's NORMAL, eh pat?
On accHOWENT of the MENTAL CASES talked Nic HOWETA gettin a dog.
See?
CITES PLEASE?
You don't got to be so POLITE, pat.
Of curse he is, if you LIKE their looks.
Yeah. EXXXCEPT that Mals are SMALL dogs, pat.
Yeah. You keep postin here.
HOWE COME you don't want Nic to have a dog, pat?
Care to recommend WON, pat?
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(misty) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:29:09 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?
Never had a chance to try them on her... I was still using the e-fence and chains to keep her in the yard.
The suggestions I received here to keep Peach home were: build a fence... wasn't going to happen.. we plan on putting a modular home here within the next few years... put more fence at the top of the pen I used so both dogs could play bitey face w/o tangling, and similar suggestions.
Jerry was the only one to mention border training... but he was kook supreme ;-P So I ignored him... no killfiles with webtv.. at that time Jerry had his own troll, somewhat like Candace, so the group was not very conducive to learning anything.
At one point I even b*tched about Jerry.
By the time I tried out Jerry's manual Peach had already ran away.
Not very good at the google groups search but you'll find my first post at 'runaway dog message 30' within that thread is mention of the dogs taking off and being gone for 2 days. I stopped posting for a bit... my middle boy was devastated that his dog was gone... Zelda came home but not her mom.
The next few posts from me were ones about/to Jerry.
Then Jerry made the WETM accessible for webbes, I put it in my e-mail (no storage otherwise on webby unless you put stuff on a webpage) and read it, read it and read it.
Once I understood what the concept was, I implemented it on Zelda. It worked and I now have a great housedog!
I only regret that my own distrust of Jerry caused me to lose another wonderful dog. Peach was an absolute gem with little kids. I and my boys still miss her. Sometimes I still look to see if she came home when we get back from trips. Maybe Peach would still have ran away... I don't know and never will....
~misty
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> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:16:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?
Peach would be there sittin pretty had our pals not given you a bum steer cause they're EMBARRASSED and AFRAID of losing their careers and reputations.... Jerry.
Stick around, we're just startin to have FUN learning and sharing... j;~)
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I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her loss.
I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how
using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home.
Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard.
Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern became how to keep them from running off for days on end.
I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock debate and the 'Jerry sux' tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g> A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all the time.
IOW a great companion and friend.
Thanks Jerry!
