Lets make this group better for protecting whales

Here are a few suggestions to make this group a better forum for protecting whales.

You may have noticed that there appears to be two or three whale-eaters trying to exhaust members who want to prevent the killing of whales.

One of the tactics is to drag you into exhausting futile arguments which will discourage you from posting on new issues.

I recommend that we ignore these deranged people and continue posting new posts on whales and their protection. It is ok to expose their behavior but lets not get drawn into their exhausting tactics.

These two or three whale-killing supporters seem to be using tactics in this group similar to the ones Greenpeace is using against stupid whale killers at sea.

But in this group, we are not at sea, and we could just ignore these whale haters and save our time and energy for more numerous posts on whale protection and real whale science and education.

Save your energy and ignore these few weirdos because they are not interested in honest discussions. They want to discourage whale supporters from using this most important group for protecting whales. I would not be surprised if these few people were paid for or somewhat gain profit from the whaling industry in order to control this most important forum for their benefit. I suspect this because they seem to have been at this for many months if not years and seem to have succeeded in pushing, bullying, harrassing away most posters, as you can see by the significant decrease in postings in recent years.

So lets make this group, which has one of the most glorious names on the Internet, alt.animals.whales, an active and dynamic one for the whales, and lets mostly ignore these few well known killing supporters who are trying to kill this group.

serge

Which is to say, don't try posting garbage here. If you don't have facts to support what you say, you'll get eaten alive by people know the topic, have the facts, and can write logical articles.

Emotional appeals and insult (several paragraphs of which have been deleted from Serge's post) and totally illogical commentary just aren't going to get you anywhere in this newsgroup.

You start out from the view that whales NEED 'protection' - what is your justification for this viewpoint?

You are aware that a commercial whaling moratorium (you might want to double check the meaning of that word) has been in place since the 80's?

Regards,

Three or four every morning with eggs, potatoes and toast.

Actually, I eat whale meat and whale blubber. Probably not often enough (it's exceedingly healthy food).

But, think of this... there are about 2500 Inupiat Eskimos living in Barrow (maybe 60% of the population). They harvest 22 Bowhead whales every year. They prefer a whale that is about 40-45 feet long. And Bowhead whales weight about one ton per foot of length.

So lets guess at about 80,000 pounds dead weight for each of 22 whales, or 1,760,000 pounds. If half of that is bones, baleen and other non-edibles (and I don't really have any idea what the percentage actually is, 50% is a wild guess), that means they harvest 880,000 pound of meat each year. Hmmm... that's 352 pounds per every man woman and child. Or roughly a pound per day! (If the average whale is actually 45 feet long, if there are actually only 2000 people who eat whales, and the percentage of meat is 60%... that would be 1.5 pounds per person.)

Hmmm... people here eat a *lot* of whale meat!

No, but I do eat them for breakfast. You volunteering?

I've had whale meat / blubber 4 or 5 times since coming to Japan. Two times I had a steak (most recently with an New Zealand friend and his Australian partner), sashimi was also ok, but the blubber was just plain disgusting raw. Maybe if it were fried, but not raw...

I can recommend the steak though.

Regards,

Because I clearly know so much more about it than you?

If I were a whale fisher I suppose I would be in it for the money. Do you actually have a job? I guess not, as it's damn obvious that it is just about the money. That's how human society works. You scratch your neighbours back and he scratches yours.